Sony A6700 On1 & Sony

[red one]

If anyone uses On1 & Sony any help would be appreciated please.
I have been using On1 for a while and like it a lot but since selling my Nikon Z8 kit and moving to Sony A6700 If ind some things confusing.
Normally I shoot RAW but my query is about Sony Creative menu.

On1 imports a limited Sony set of presets into the Tone Edit model, my camera does not have a landscape creative which would be there from other cameras to compare with On1s own presets.
The ones which are imported are only Neutral Portrait Standard and one Vivid.
Comparing these with the On1 equivalents shows On1 base histogram very similar ie as far as shadows and highlight clipping goes but in each case On1 version is obviously more saturated ie deeper and brighter tones.

So which is the most accurate, I believe the camera should be?

Thanks for looking.

 

[FowlersFreeTime]

I use the same camera and the same program, but I often have more questions than answers. I have not been using that feature at all. So I guess, by default, I've been using "ON1 Standard". The only time that has failed me, is on a recent experiment where I took pics at a nighttime event where there were lots of lasers and neon lights in a garden and the "ON1 Standard" was so over saturated and blown out, that I often had to switch to "Camera Standard" or "Camera Neutral" as a better starting point for editing RAWs... and even then I think the JPGs straight out of camera somehow turned out better than my RAW editing efforts.

I'll edit my post to share the link of those photos:

Nightscape - Nightlights at Fairchild Tropical Gardens

Did a bit of an experiment at the seasonal light show at my favorite tropical garden: I chose to use the Sigma 16mm and a 1/4 black mist filter on my A6700 for the entire exhibit. Some parts of the garden had mist and lasers, others a mixture of projected light and darkness. The results were...

www.alphashooters.com

How about you post up some examples?

 

[red one]

Many thanks for reply, love your photographs, I doubt you would find a more complex light scenario and all people shots are well exposed.
I haven't used the Sony much, still setting it up having sold My Z8 will post a pic when possible.

What you say bears up with my initial findings, On1 shots are oversaturated at least compared with the Sony ones.
In On1 2025 - Tone and Color menu there are five On1 Camera Presets (5 as in LR too I think) and four Camera Presets ie no Sony Landscape.
If you hover over the to neutral presets (for convenience they are next to each other vertically) I hope you will see what I do, the On1 is obviously more saturated. The same applies for alll the presets.
It is the same for srgb or adobe set in camera and I am looking at Sony RAW untouched out of camera.
I spoke to a nice person at On1 who suggested that the imported profile was possibly more accurate. I just wanted to know which to use of the two.
Possibly now matter as long as I am consistent. (There were long threads elsewhere about what LR does to RAW files)

 

[FowlersFreeTime]

I'm still on version 2024. Is it worth it to upgrade?
I'm curious about those profiles now, I would be really curious to see if there are others available for download. By the way, version 2024 has the same profiles you mentioned.

 

[Richard A]

(There were long threads elsewhere about what LR does to RAW files)

As in?

Are you talking about Profiles or Presets? I don't use On 1 but is it possible to load your own Profiles? You might want to try a Linear Profile for your camera. I'm sure there would be one available somewhere.

Tony Kyper Linear Profile Repository

 

[red one]

I'm still on version 2024. Is it worth it to upgrade?
I'm curious about those profiles now, I would be really curious to see if there are others available for download. By the way, version 2024 has the same profiles you mentioned.

I still have 2024 and it is the same in this respect. I got into it because my stored Nikon Z7/8 NEF images appear for all intents and purposes the same as the On1, no real difference at that level whereas the Sony files were different in saturation.
You also get more/profiles for info for Nikon images. Maybe it is possible to import more for Sony, I'm not sure how to use the import feature where it says 'Import' under the camera list?
I shall start off with Neutral set in camera to keep the display as flat as possible then select say Sony Camera Standard to work with in On1?

To be honest I bought 2025 as it was offered at about half price. For my simple edit flow it probably makes no difference.
As I wasnt into AI & layers etc I decided to restart with 2025 from the beginning but havent got far as yet.

Possibly best to view their videos advertising 2025 see if any new bits interest you. Mainly increases in AI stuff.
I haven't bought any of the many extras theyoffer, happy with the basic one off purchase and they do give a lot of free stuff.

 

[red one]

As in?

Are you talking about Profiles or Presets? I don't use On 1 but is it possible to load your own Profiles? You might want to try a Linear Profile for your camera. I'm sure there would be one available somewhere.

Tony Kyper Linear Profile Repository

No only talking about the camera creative looks selection which appears in the edit modules of LR and On1 whatever, underneath those of the program where they are confusingly called profiles. Just allowing you to change your camera ones to those in the On1 set.
I do not fully understand as yet the Profile menu where you can up load your own. You mention Linear and I think that is a further setting in the On1 tone menu.

 

[FowlersFreeTime]

I still have 2024 and it is the same in this respect. I got into it because my stored Nikon Z7/8 NEF images appear for all intents and purposes the same as the On1, no real difference at that level whereas the Sony files were different in saturation.
You also get more/profiles for info for Nikon images. Maybe it is possible to import more for Sony, I'm not sure how to use the import feature where it says 'Import' under the camera list?
I shall start off with Neutral set in camera to keep the display as flat as possible then select say Sony Camera Standard to work with in On1?

To be honest I bought 2025 as it was offered at about half price. For my simple edit flow it probably makes no difference.
As I wasnt into AI & layers etc I decided to restart with 2025 from the beginning but havent got far as yet.

Possibly best to view their videos advertising 2025 see if any new bits interest you. Mainly increases in AI stuff.
I haven't bought any of the many extras theyoffer, happy with the basic one off purchase and they do give a lot of free stuff.

Heh, I just got it (ON1 2025) at 50% off as well. Last deal for the year.