Goodbye Adobe Creative Cloud...

[Clix Pix]

Well, I don't keep a stopwatch around to check to see how quickly my images open but definitely it doesn't take all that long, certainly not 13 seconds or longer..... My machine is only a year older than yours and looking at your specs I note that you've only got 16 GB RAM, which may be a contributing factor, and it looks as though you've got just the standard graphics, not the extra VEGA as well? Those two things may make a difference, I really don't know.

 

[Sergiobodyweb]

The graphics card will make all the difference in the world.

Only to preview an image? Not talking about image modification, that's fast.
Come on, this is a +$3k laptop and it can't load a picture?

Why is it loaded in a fraction of a second if I open the image with Mac viewer, Capture One, Photoshop or Lightroom?

Probably the preview system in DxO Photolab is not so good. If you google it seems a common problem.

 

[Clix Pix]

That is my impression as well, that a graphics card makes a difference, and in the Intel MBPs, which have the ability to have the discrete graphics card in addition to the regular one, it just seemed like a good idea for photography, which is why I bought the 2018 machine with the VEGA 20 additional graphics card. I don't imagine that the same sort of thing is needed now in the new M1 MBPs.......

 

[Sergiobodyweb]

I installed DxO Photo Lab 4 and it's fine, it's not the fastest, but it's just fine. It has to be a problem with the 5.0 version and the fact I upgraded to Monterey, probably not fully compatible.

 

[FowlersFreeTime]

I use ON1 Photo RAW.

You know what Alan, you mentioned ON1 before and I didn't really explore your suggestion, my apologies.
Today on Fstoppers, there was an article about ON1 and it made me think to revisit this thread. Here is the article:

That’s Not a Lightroom Killer; This Is a Lightroom Killer! We Review ON1 Photo Raw 2022.5

Calling raw handling software a "Lightroom Killer" is a cliche. Nevertheless, this powerful suite of tools is starting to overshadow the Adobe Photographer's Plan. It is now posing a real challenge to Lightroom and Photoshop. ON1 Photo Raw has another update, and now it offers everything most...

fstoppers.com

One commenter on that post said it was a bit resource hungry, specifically in the CPU specs, did you have any issues there?

ON1 Photo Raw appears to be on sale until June 29th for $50. not bad, not bad!

 

[Clix Pix]

I've thought on-and-off about trying ON1 -- maybe now would be a good time for that.... The review definitely makes it sound quite enticing.

 

[FowlersFreeTime]

I've thought on-and-off about trying ON1 -- maybe now would be a good time for that.... The review definitely makes it sound quite enticing.

and the sale price makes it enticing too. The only other company I know that occasionally runs such deep discounts on a non-subscription product is Affinity.

 

[Alan Clark]

One commenter on that post said it was a bit resource hungry, specifically in the CPU specs, did you have any issues there?

I have also had the same problem where it almost locks up for a few minutes for no apparent reason. In response to this a poster suggested making adjustments in Edit>Preferences>System menu. I looked at the ON1 video on the subject and I have tried moving the Cache size and video strength sliders to the right, as it suggests. Dunno how much effect these will have, I will have to wait and see.

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[FowlersFreeTime]

I just pulled the trigger on ON1. I'll be playing around with it this weekend.

 

[Ivanturas]

and have nothing for video editing.

If you ever need to edit video & hate subscriptions, check out Resolve. There's a free version that doesn't really miss too many things compared to the Studio version, although one of the missing features is GPU acceleration, which in my case is quite important. Nevertheless, Studio version is not expensive at all, I even got a promo that included both the software license and speed editor surface for the price of one.
These guys hate subscriptions as much as consumers do... even recently, the market has been forcing them to provide some cloud features and they built some sort of hybrid where you buy a device from them, that acts as your very own server.

There's also an optional $5/mo fee you may pay to host a shared library on their project server... but it's not even a per-user fee, you can have as many account as you wish accessing your library, as long as the library owner pays those $5, which seems to me like it's priced to just cover their server upkeep and not much more than that.

No forcing you to use more cloud features, no messing with your data, no dependency on their servers for every single click you make.

 

[AlphaWorld]

I just pulled the trigger on ON1. I'll be playing around with it this weekend.

I will be interested to hear what you think after using it for a while.

 

[FowlersFreeTime]

I will be interested to hear what you think after using it for a while.

Quick thoughts: I love it. The navigation was easy for me to grasp, the lens correction based on lens profiles is very useful, and the NoNoise AI is AMAZING. I'll create a thread with some examples soon.

 

[spudhead]

Finally pulled the plug on Adobe's scam of a subscription service. So much money wasted I don't want to think about it.
Currently using Capture One Express for photos, and have nothing for video editing.
Wondering if Adobe will get any of my money for their Photoshop and Premiere Elements software, but now seems like a good time to make a clean break from Adobe altogether.
Thoughts?

I hope express suits you , it is worth getting the full version as express is quite limited compared to the pro version

 

[FowlersFreeTime]

I've now tried: Adobe photoshop elements, Capture One Express, and ON1.

1. Adobe photoshop elements isn't worth getting. Though I have used it for limited editing and for stitching panoramas. Maybe Affinity would have been a better purchase instead.
2. Capture One Express was good, and I assume the full blown version might be everything I need.
3. ON1 has been a fun wild card. I got it on sale and I was surprised with how many features are included in a single payment (sale price $50) without a paywall blocking premium features. Of course, if one were to have extra spare change there is a cloud version available and optional luts for purchase.

Still playing around with ON1, have yet to successfully use any of their presets and haven't tried sky replacement yet.